HERBERT, J.
The respondent raises two questions in his brief on the demurrer which may be restated as follows:
(1) Was the proffer on July 17 of the referendum petition for filing made in time? (2) Is it mandatory to file a verified copy of the ordinance on which referendum is sought before circulating the referendum petition?
Section 11 of the city charter provides:
"All ordinances and resolutions shall be in effect from and after thirty ...
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